Now & Center: Entrepreneurial Voices from the Margin

Intuition, Ritual, & Alignment with Priestess Shananda "D", Founder of The Divinity of Ananda Intuitive Consulting & Temple Crimson Lotus

August 30, 2022 Karen Bartlett Episode 19
Now & Center: Entrepreneurial Voices from the Margin
Intuition, Ritual, & Alignment with Priestess Shananda "D", Founder of The Divinity of Ananda Intuitive Consulting & Temple Crimson Lotus
Show Notes Transcript

Episode Description:  

Karen talks with Priestess Shananda, Founder of The Divinity of Ananda Intuitive Consulting and Temple Crimson Lotus, about internal and external temples, tapping into intuition, and using rituals as access to our inner knowing and a way to create boundaries for self-care.  They discuss the impacts of a system not set up for women of color to be entrepreneurs and the value of stubbornness, persistence, and determination in attaining self-sufficiency and self-sovereignty.  They have a coaching conversation around how to organically find the right clients, alignment, and enjoying the journey.

Links:

Schedule an Exploratory Call with Karen: https://calendly.com/karenbartlett/30min

Learn more about Kite + Dart Group:  www.kiteanddartgroup.com

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Learn more about The Divinity of Ananda Intuitive Consulting and Temple Crimson Lotus:  https://linktr.ee/thedivinityofananda

Connect with Priestess Shananda:  https://www.instagram.com/priestessshananda/

Connect with Carin Huebner at Public Good Media:  publicgood.media

Original music credit goes to DJ Ishe:  https://soundcloud.com/ishe

00:00.00

kitedart

Hello everyone and welcome to today's session of Now & Center. I have got a fabulous human here with me today. I am with Priestess Shananda who I lovingly call D. D, welcome to the show today.


00:14.72

Priestess Shananda 

Thank you so much Karen. It's a pleasure to be here, truly.


00:18.80

kitedart

Yeah, it's a pleasure to have you here. Thank you. Just to get things started off with um, will you share with folks about your business and what you do and the difference that you make for people through your work.


00:25.65

Priestess Shananda 

Um, again.


00:34.84

Priestess Shananda 

Sure thing. So my business is The Divinity of Ananda Intuitive Consulting um and I also and I know some people make it confused but it's temple crimson lotus and so with that being said. Simple crimson lotus it can or cannot be an actual temple but my envisioning when I none created and was just building my my my business and nurturing it I saw because I have a temple space and I know a temple space for me is very sacred very. Nurturing you know a safe space and so this is truly what it is because we are our temple our body houses our spirit and so with saying that our spirit. Needs to feel safe in the body in the temple and so that's where temple crimson lotus comes in at and um, my business helps in just really I I hope honing that in and embodying.


01:35.43

kitedart

A.


01:52.54

Priestess Shananda 

Body and such a way as to honor this temple that we're given to create more space for our spirit to blossom to you know, just shy and so that's what I do using just my gifts and that's come from. Ah, variety of modalities that I've been taught over the years ten plus years and and my training as a priest is and just as a I would just say a facilitator of spirit. Some people say light workers light warriors and why that is the case. It's it's just more than that for me. Um for a one to really get in the space of just really independently and bracing embodying that. Empowerment that they're wanting to feel I feel that you know I really want to create a space that really helps them to do that and just reconnecting them with themselves their authentic selves so that they are able to really live a life of. Their dreams and whatever other goals that they have to to pursue be adventurous in doing that. So I I'm always growing I'm a student always none you know and I have an adventurous spirit and I just I just love.


03:14.33

kitedart

Is her.


03:28.76

Priestess Shananda 

That I'm in a space right now to be able to and have the opportunity to teach others what I know and not be afraid to do so.


03:36.94

kitedart

Yeah I Love that I Love that it's so funny. Even um so I just I feel like I feel like we're kind of more and more getting. To this world where people are really embracing everything you're talking about right and really craving it really embracing it Maybe not not necessarily always knowing how to do it for themselves by any means. So I think.


03:58.63

Priestess Shananda 

Um, my draft.


04:09.58

kitedart

The work that you're doing is really important because having a guide having a facilitator for that can be really important but that people are hungry for that and people are really wanting to embody that and um, yeah, and just and just really like step into that. So I I think it's. Amazing Like as you're listening them just like yes I Love it. Um.


04:30.28

Priestess Shananda 

Yes, and it's a process daily. You know it. It takes maintenance just like you know we for the most of us we have a a schedule and I like to call them rituals to where we do things that place us. And um I would say just kind of like in this flow state right? to where we are not so bothered by the external but None to get our internal and a flow to where we're pursuing what makes us feel good.


05:05.95

kitedart

Ah.


05:07.42

Priestess Shananda 

You know and a routine ritual how we want to do that. So It's it for me like I think I don't know if I this morning I My butt My finger accidentally hit the button. Normally the None thing that I do when I when I wake up is is just kind of like give thanks and then I reach for my phone just to see what time it is you know sometimes or see if I have an important message My finger accidentally hit the email and I read one that had me just like oh. Then I was like up. No no, no, no, no, no stop. This is your time to get yourself together None to get an alignment all that other stuff can wait but it's a process right? Our brains start to be like okay, what's next? what? What do we got to do None Oh shoot I got to fix this. We trying to fix something we haven't even really.


05:53.25

kitedart

And.


06:05.41

Priestess Shananda 

Fixed ourselves yet you know or aligned ourselves to be able to tackle and things with clarity right? so.


06:11.39

kitedart

Yes I love that it's so true. It's so true I am I think it's so interesting because like you're you're talking about this right like in this very personal way right? and having that. Um.


06:26.59

Priestess Shananda 

Um, the.


06:30.76

kitedart

But I I feel like it's It's true with so many things that like anytime we want anytime we want maybe change in the world or to see something different. It's Like. It always has to start with us right? like it just does. Um.


06:47.42

Priestess Shananda 

Always always you know we may have a different perspective about something but as long as we you know have a are able to see things you know see the situation in a different perspective. It's only then. And so we had to do that right? by coming within to within our temple to sit with ourselves to center and to just allow allow for an open My you know? So yes.


07:08.94

kitedart

I said.


07:18.11

kitedart

Yeah I Love that you've got me very much thinking about how I treat my body as a temple or don't So I'm also sitting with that too. Um can can I ask like just so that. Ah, anybody listening has like even maybe a more concrete understanding of what you do and maybe that's not the right word but can you share with us because I know you are trained in so many different things can you share with us some of the tools in your toolbox Some of the goodies.


07:42.40

Priestess Shananda 

Um, this one.


07:47.79

Priestess Shananda 

Yes.


07:53.99

kitedart

That you use when you work with folks.


07:54.47

Priestess Shananda 

Okay, so let's see and it's taken me a while to just kind of like think of them at that like that and to kind of pair them down but I'm more so of an intuitive. Um, and so when let's just say if you and I had a.


08:05.30

kitedart

Yeah.


08:13.69

Priestess Shananda 

Um, a session I would None invite you to just really ground yourself and to feel comfortable and we just start a regular conversation which will sometimes lead to why you come to see me and then.


08:28.98

kitedart

A.


08:32.20

Priestess Shananda 

Um, and I'll pick up on certain cues like if I felt that let's just say you may want more um boundaries within yourself and to creating a ritual that works for you then I would probably suggest. Us to do kind of like a little visualization of how your perfect day will look for you. How you feel bringing all of the the motions you want to feel the visceral feelings just imagine it to the fullest. And inviting you to go on that journey within yourself with me as a guide. Um, possibly if there's a blockage somewhere use a tool such as eft or Mantras along with the eft because tapping on those Meridian points. Sometimes allows just like it's like acupuncture just for the opening doing healing work on the the Chakra at sea where there's um, a shock where that needs to be realigned and so focusing. So like if there's boundaries. That you want to create to create structures within your life. It may be just a little balance in the in the sacral Chakra that may need to so doing work on that. So it's It's kind of like a step you know and then of course there's a basic.


09:58.91

kitedart

Yeah.


10:03.66

Priestess Shananda 

Let's just say format but you know I use the basic format So that my clients can have a clear guideline for themselves. But for me I'm always listening to my higher self you know and there may be so if they were coming to me for let's just say an intuitive reading. I'm asking and inviting them to also ask that their guides be present as Well. They have a spiritual guides or ancestral that they are really comfortable with bringing it bringing that into the session because that always helps when they have their spirit team. Their.


10:35.11

kitedart

Ah.


10:41.95

Priestess Shananda 

Astral or etheric Team. We all have that team of workers that works with us and doing that and connecting with them asking permission and so yeah, um, there's a variety of other things that I may bring in as well. Um I Love working with sound healing as well as body healing the Reiki So I Think that's the the the the the primary you know? yeah.


11:11.40

kitedart

Yeah, yeah, that's great I mean and well and I think and part of why I even asked you to share that is um I mean I've done a session with you and it was really phenomenal I didn't really know even though we had worked together you know and I and I you know you I you.


11:17.21

Priestess Shananda 

Is he.


11:23.48

Priestess Shananda 

A.


11:29.24

kitedart

Shared so much with me about your business but it was like not until I got there and experienced it that I was like oh my gosh like even just from the get-go that you you came in you know I'm not going to get into the specifics but like you came in with some intuitive things.


11:41.93

Priestess Shananda 

The.


11:47.59

kitedart

Like just right off the bat that were so helpful and so just like oh my gosh like how did you know like we hadn't even talked about it. You know what I mean and I just I I Just thought that that was super cool and I'm I mean I'm I'm so big on intuition right? I you know this I'm always talking to.


12:02.10

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yes, yes.


12:06.28

kitedart

My clients about how they can bring in their intuition to their business and how they can be trusting their intuition but to see like how powerfully um, you were in tune with that. Ah, not just for yourself. But for me. As the client like that was just really super Cool. So Um I Just thought you know giving a little bit more and then even that you gave me suggestions on diet and supplements and right and like you said the eft like there were a lot of pieces to it. So.


12:38.88

Priestess Shananda 

Yes.


12:43.99

kitedart

I Think that you're just such a like multi-talented human and you've got so many tools in your toolbox I think it's pretty amazing. So thanks for sharing that.


12:52.10

Priestess Shananda 

Oh Thank you and I think really, um, it's when I allow myself to just really ground and. Focus on creating just that sacred space for you know my clients to really just center themselves so that they'll feel more comfortable with because we all have that intuition that gut feeling but sometimes we are afraid to act upon it. Or listen to it and so if I can create a space that allows a person to really just say what's on their mind a K a say what their gut is telling them to say and and go with that. They are more able to outside of the session. To immediately. They have that instinct that gut instinct or hear a voice. Not just think of themselves as crazy you know or just start to listen and trust themselves. That's what it's about listening and trusting that inner voice and that's what I want to do help.


13:57.50

kitedart

Ah.


14:08.17

Priestess Shananda 

To facilitate that and to make it ah ah an ongoing occurrence and sometimes those rituals do need to um, be grounded as a just as a boundary for themselves to be like all right. This makes me feel Good. You know in order for me to do this. I need to do this for myself. None and people sometimes think of like taking care of themselves as Selfish. No, we can't take care of our other people if we're not at at a place to do So you know to take care of Ourselves. So.


14:43.86

kitedart

Yeah, so true. So true. Um I'm like gosh if I'd only known you when I was teaching not that I'm perfect at it now. But it's like I I could never I could never get that back when I was teaching.


14:59.53

Priestess Shananda 

And.


15:02.83

kitedart

Like and I think it was you know it was a lot of conditioning. It was a lot of different things. But again I think you know it goes back to it all starts with us and and it's so true that if we aren't doing those things for ourselves. How can we possibly help others with it.


15:05.96

Priestess Shananda 

Yes, s.


15:20.85

kitedart

And we can sometimes but it's like we're going to hit burnout. We're going to hit unhappiness. We're go to hit Dissatisfat I mean we're going to hit whatever different thing right? that that stops us and and I think that's pretty assured. Um.


15:24.50

Priestess Shananda 

Yes.


15:31.90

Priestess Shananda 

Right? right? and that conditioning that conditioning is something that we may have to work with on a daily basis or when it comes up but you know it's like working through that conditioning, especially the the. Conditioning that society places upon us, you know that and feeling the pressure of that just by celebrating at least None small action that we did to.


15:52.20

kitedart

Um, yeah.


16:10.72

Priestess Shananda 

Think a different way that feels right for us without having to think about what so-and-s so has to say right? That's a huge step forward in just going with our flow and being in our sovereign our self-s sovereignty so that we can.


16:18.28

kitedart

Fma.


16:29.98

Priestess Shananda 

Navigate and direct our lives the way that we truly feel that we can be a service to the world.


16:34.26

kitedart

Ah, yes, yes, yes yes I Love that I Ah um I Love to you know I Love just that that you're really working to help people. Get in touch with their own intuition their own knowing um like I said intuition's really important to me for myself and for my you know trying to encourage that in my clients as well and it I didn't.


17:05.50

Priestess Shananda 

Um e.


17:11.41

kitedart

I mean I've had times in my life where I really trusted my intuition like in some big ways. But in some of those like everyday smaller kind of ways. It was constantly a like like no, no, no like you know and and yeah I think that.


17:12.57

Priestess Shananda 

Um, oh yes.


17:20.18

Priestess Shananda 

Yes.


17:28.74

kitedart

Our intuition doesn't lead us wrong and I just think that that's such a powerful. It's just a powerful thing that you're doing um that you're supporting people with right and in guiding them in uncovering for themselves.


17:29.89

Priestess Shananda 

Um, you know.


17:40.91

Priestess Shananda 

And to just know that you know like I can't remember the the full affirmation that I used to say but just like something to the fact that no one knows you. And your path better than you do So at times we may get that programming outside of ourselves. You know that wants us to doubt what we already know is true sort of just have the courage to be like.


17:58.88

kitedart

Yes.


18:07.89

kitedart

Yes, yes.


18:12.76

Priestess Shananda 

You know, shut up, You know you don't know what you're talking about type of thing you know and just trust that take that risk to just try it. You know, especially if it just keeps nagging nagging and it's just like it won't go away then that's a clear sign that your intuition is like looking up at you'd be like.


18:20.18

kitedart

Yes.


18:31.99

Priestess Shananda 

Wonder how much longer they're going to just ignore me. Um, yes.


18:34.93

kitedart

Yeah, well I feel like it. It does tend to get louder too and sometimes at least in my experience when I don't listen. It's going to speak louder and louder and louder and it's eventually going to be like you know, knock me on the head with it or knock me over the head with it of like hey dummy.


18:47.46

Priestess Shananda 

Yes, yeah, yeah, and you know and that brings into um my mind is like we do have our own like personalities a K free wills but like.


18:54.80

kitedart

Get the message already. But.


19:06.75

Priestess Shananda 

That brings into our our natal ah Chart placement What we're here to learn where we need to go in aka our north node versus where we come from our south note and just really learning to. Um, find ways to help us to quiet down our challenges navigate them and lean into them instead of like running from them. You know because it's just like we'll get the message but does it take a literal knock across the head.


19:36.72

kitedart

Um, ah.


19:42.80

Priestess Shananda 

You know or do we need to be like just stand face to face with her son like tell the ego all right, You'll get your chance but I need you to do this for me See. We're always the ones that are in control our ego thinks it's the ones running the show but we have to. Allow our ego to assist us not run this show per se right.


20:05.74

kitedart

Um, yeah, yeah, some of us do need to be knocked over the head but you know I feel like I'm doing better but that used to be like.


20:16.73

Priestess Shananda 

Oh my gosh I'm that one I think that's what my dad used to just say when I was a kid you knuckle head meaning stubborn because I was just this head I'm this headstrong Leo right? You know with other crazy placements. But yeah, do it.


20:19.66

kitedart

What it would take but I guess it's just part of my journey and yeah.


20:27.94

kitedart

Um, yeah, yeah.


20:36.62

Priestess Shananda 

My way or no way. But yeah.


20:37.56

kitedart

Um, yeah, but I love it. So I'd love to ask kind of switching gears but I feel like it's kind of interesting because it also kind of follows what we're talking about here.


20:48.53

Priestess Shananda 

Um, and present.


20:53.80

kitedart

Um, right? So you've been on this journey with your business and um I mean gosh I think I met you in I think I met you in early Twenty Twenty I think it was early in the covid shutdown and so you've been on this journey even before that with this business. Can you.


21:01.45

Priestess Shananda 

I Think so yeah.


21:10.69

kitedart

Ah, share with us some of the challenges that you've had over the years um and you know and but you know what you've learned through those challenges with the business.


21:22.18

Priestess Shananda 

Yeah, sure and I just none of all, just you know I'm just so grateful that you know I took the the risk to click on that eventbrite and you know just get to know you and and everyone involved in your company. Because like that was really a monumental change for me before that I was just trying to do it part time when I had a full time passion and taking on that None to None and just really feeling just like disconnected so much from what I was supposed to do.


21:59.61

kitedart

I.


22:01.38

Priestess Shananda 

And my calling but doing what I had to do right? Um, but I feel that you know with the work that um you and cart and dart do do with especially just dismantling this whole paradigm. You know of. What we have to specialize entrepreneurs having to face and me being an entrepreneur of color and a woman you know I just feel that the challenges for me is None of all, really navigating those obstacles.


22:21.98

kitedart

Um, yeah.


22:38.41

Priestess Shananda 

Within a system that wasn't set up for me in the None place. Ah that for me that for me is just like holy crap. How do I do this and how do I first of all create the strength within me to stand face to face with this total.


22:41.13

kitedart

Ah.


22:58.32

Priestess Shananda 

System that is not on my side meet it with compassion and then just find a way that works for me and I still you know I still work with this. You know, especially the then poster syndrome right? Um, the worth because. Everything that people see you know I don't know what they think but still I can imagine especially with the history. You know that? um and with my ancestral you know, just. Healing that I've done and and what my ancestors been Through. We're not good Enough. You know on both fronts. You know, being a um ah just a person of indigenous and African-american heritage and a woman. Have to deal with this constantly and so just finding a way that works for us outside of the box where we are free to create the life and claim our worth that you know that we're we're worthy of. Having all the things but without having to face all of this judgment or Stigmas and so I just always wanted to just be authentic and sometimes previous my past I felt.


24:18.93

kitedart

Um, yeah.


24:28.93

Priestess Shananda 

Being my authentic self was not accepted and so yeah I think that's been the biggest challenge for myself.


24:35.64

kitedart

Yeah, yeah, it's so much. Um I'm curious be because I think that um I mean. What you're talking about here is such a big part of why I do the work that I do right is that um me too and you know not not that my experience has been the same as your experience but that you know, Ah, we're not supposed to be here so to speak and so.


24:53.40

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah.


25:04.47

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah, yeah.


25:08.57

kitedart

I've had to overcome so much of my own healing and liberation from this system these paradigms that that aren't set up for us to succeed. Um and I get what you said that it's ah it's an ongoing journey.


25:11.20

Priestess Shananda 

Is he.


25:23.99

Priestess Shananda 

Yes.


25:26.79

kitedart

But I'm curious if there's like even and maybe this is too hard to answer I don't know but are is there anything like 1 or 2 things that have really um, pushed you forward in terms of um, combating that.


25:42.86

Priestess Shananda 

You know I just know for myself that I'm a determined individual and I feel that as a human species as a being we're here to not go through all of this craziness that we put ourselves through.


25:48.58

kitedart

The.


26:01.97

Priestess Shananda 

And I want what I want I Just don't want for myself I want for all and I want for generations to come after me, you know, not to deal with everything that our ancestors had to deal with and just honoring and recognizing.


26:09.73

kitedart

Um, ah okay.


26:21.17

Priestess Shananda 

Our individual in this our our uniqueness but also knowing that we all have a birthright and that birthright is to live life freely and happily so me being determined me wanting better for the next generations to come. I Mean you know people are waiting. Ah I would most people and this is just my opinion. It may change tomorrow um waiting to get to heaven to experience Bliss right? Why not experience it now. Heaven on earth.


26:53.98

kitedart

Um, a.


26:59.54

Priestess Shananda 

This is the meaning of bringing heaven on Earth and I'm not a religious person by any means but I was brought up and I've learned to to see within those teachings. The spiritual nature of what was supposed to come through without all the Dogma and it was just being free to.


27:13.31

kitedart

So.


27:19.19

Priestess Shananda 

Be here and learn. This is why we're here on this Earth school to learn and to connect you know to connect even throughout our differences to honor that respect that and find common ground in some things and if not, you know, just still wish him well and.


27:25.30

kitedart

Um, yeah.


27:38.55

kitedart

Yeah, yeah, well and it's so funny because you you knew you were talking about you know, being determined being persistent and earlier. You're talking about being stubborn and it's like to me, it's like that's a great thing. You know like.


27:38.90

Priestess Shananda 

Find your tribe.


27:47.46

Priestess Shananda 

Are.


27:55.90

kitedart

I mean I can say for myself. Personally, there's times where being stubborn maybe didn't serve me super well and at the same time that like being stubborn can bring a certain amount or you know it. It can bring that persistence and that determination and they're like I'm not going to get stopped here like um.


27:55.70

Priestess Shananda 

Um, I had to learn. Yeah. Oh yeah.


28:10.62

Priestess Shananda 

Yeah, for sure I had to learn balance for sure I also had to reconnect with that. There was a time where certain situations kind of um and this was not saying that This was either good or bad.


28:14.20

kitedart

So ah, ah.


28:30.50

Priestess Shananda 

But you know I did lose my voice I did um, go into a time some would call it the dark night of the soul but you know through that process alone. It really got me to see that. That's the old story. That's not who I am I still have a voice I still matter you know and so um, yeah, just really realizing and recognizing that I'm still here I'm still standing. And as long as that's the case I have no other choice but to continue to strive and move forward.


29:15.93

kitedart

Yeah, yeah I I'd love to pull out from what you said earlier Also right that like not only do you want these things for yourself, but you want them for others and you want them for generations to come and.


29:32.52

Priestess Shananda 

Yes.


29:35.25

kitedart

And I just want to like I love that and I believe that that's the true um nature of being an entrepreneur of running a business right? is is that it's a vehicle for us as individuals to get what we want.


29:44.20

Priestess Shananda 

Yes, yes.


29:51.99

Priestess Shananda 

E.


29:53.90

kitedart

And it's a vehicle for us to to support others in getting that too and that that there's a real synergistic relationship and and I'll even say like you know for you I know. There's so much here around like intuition and authenticity and like you know, really living your bliss and being who you really are and honoring that and it's it's so cool because as you're talking about it like what you do and what I do looks very different on the outside.


30:14.85

Priestess Shananda 

In here.


30:27.40

kitedart

But like ultimately there's so much That's the same about it in terms of not our tools or our sandbox so to speak but like the end result and that you know through.


30:36.73

Priestess Shananda 

Yes.


30:42.75

kitedart

Through our relationship I've learned from you about authenticity and and liberation and healing and all of these things. Um, and when I see you doing it. It gives it to me and. I Try to do it and hopefully that does something for you and and I just I Love the the reciprocal nature or synergy between you know those that we're connected with and so I guess I'm kind of.


31:01.68

Priestess Shananda 

Um, good then.


31:12.32

Priestess Shananda 

Yes.


31:17.73

kitedart

Pulling something out of what you said, but then also even just reflecting like for me in my journey to to have all these things that um who I'm connected to matters so much and other people wanting that like it's reinforcing back back and forth in both directions.


31:28.29

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yes.


31:33.67

Priestess Shananda 

Yes, I No no, no no I know I Totally no I totally was was was following was tracking and what words just came to me was just it's really giving and receiving blessings equally.


31:36.73

kitedart

That was probably very redundant and not very ah concise.


31:51.64

kitedart

Ah, her.


31:53.37

Priestess Shananda 

And like when you were saying what you gained from seeing me I gained similar from seeing you. It's like knowing that you have similar visions and just kind of like you going after them even though you have. This or even though that it's like these obstacles. It's not stopping you and just knowing that um divine timing is everything patience and so it's just like but knowing that my dream can become a reality as well.


32:29.90

kitedart

A.


32:30.51

Priestess Shananda 

You know? so but it's it's it's giving and receiving giving and receiving and so that that cycle of giving and receiving and how it makes you feel you know, not only to receive but in order to and and to give and just passing that along to the next generation as well because. We as entrepreneurs and as women we may not think Relieve that we are making a difference but there's somebody out there watching and saying well gee if they can do it I can do it too and you know that's a legacy to leave behind. Outside of material goods right? You know a legacy of self-sufficiency and and self-sovereignty you know and they're knowing that you still have a connection that is your community and who's wanting the same thing and growing and and just.


33:13.20

kitedart

Um, a.


33:28.34

Priestess Shananda 

Building with that structure I mean how did our ancestors make it as far as they made it. You know, right? Even with you know Thank thank God It's for them having because they dealt with so much more than we could ever realize right.


33:38.77

kitedart

Hoof and.


33:45.87

kitedart

Um, yeah, ah.


33:48.18

Priestess Shananda 

You know the the sacrifices they made and so when I stand in front of my ancestor alter in the mornings I just thank them for their determination to continue to thank them for their guidance you know because even though they are cross the veil. They're still guiding me. I see the way that my mother comes in when I have this this inspiration to create. She was a artist even though she wasn't quote unquote actively doing so in her external world I'm the oldest of None for crying out loud but you know.


34:26.12

kitedart

Yeah.


34:28.10

Priestess Shananda 

Just knowing that she had that creative spirit and she oh so yeah I Just like a month ago started take doing macrame because I do like Crystals and I like to create outside of you know what? I do it's content and I'm just like Wow. And I'm sitting there doing the knot and feeling my mom every step of the way and remembering all of the macro items she had hanging up in her house. So yes.


34:55.84

kitedart

I Love that Well that makes me think of my mom too actually. But I love that I love that? Um, thanks for sharing that. That's super cool. So I'm curious.


34:58.78

Priestess Shananda 

Yes, yes. Oh Thank you. Thank you.


35:13.79

kitedart

Um, like like you were talking about. You know, really your your biggest challenges and and so much of it being around um imposter syndrome and being in the system that isn't. Wasn't intended for you to be here for me to be here for you know?? Um I'm I'm curious if there's any like real specific ways that maybe that's shown up for you and you don't have to but just you know if there's any examples or real specific ways that that.


35:32.90

Priestess Shananda 

Um, be here.


35:49.56

kitedart

Has shown up for you in your business.


35:50.53

Priestess Shananda 

I would say I know some of the questions that you know people may ask when they want to know what I do I could see the wills churning in their head right? You know. And sometimes and I I understand but I'm not a big big fan of the term woo- woo you know everybody's interpretation of Woo-oo is different but you know when I hear it I can already see them doing the the hand signals.


36:15.69

kitedart

Um, and he.


36:26.65

Priestess Shananda 

You know, crazy in the head this woowoo person you know with all these like you know these type of things but our ancestor navigated with these same ah these same tools using nature as a guy using our intuition. Um devination.


36:28.63

kitedart

And.


36:42.49

kitedart

Um.


36:46.63

Priestess Shananda 

I Mean even the some of the religious sectors still use these things but like it's almost like they're um, telling a specific group. No, you can't do it this way or some type of way shaming. But then at the same instance Using. These same things to further themselves or push an agenda or and to influence. Ah, and I'm like whoa this is like just mind boggling to me but you know I wouldn't say.


37:07.13

kitedart

Um, ah.


37:12.84

kitedart

Um, yeah.


37:21.47

Priestess Shananda 

I Or maybe I just kind of like developed a callous to certain things you know I am who I am and you know I I try um to practice compassion.


37:27.67

kitedart

Live here.


37:40.75

Priestess Shananda 

And to just respect and and honor people's differences and use 1 of the 9 agreements of just not taking it personal but also how can I um write this out of my story. How can I look at this and a.


37:49.29

kitedart

I had.


37:56.74

kitedart

Yeah.


38:00.71

Priestess Shananda 

And a brand new light create a brand new script and trust trust you know so where I used to be so frustrated with specific things you know I I just kind of like.


38:08.17

kitedart

Um, yeah.


38:19.51

Priestess Shananda 

Take more I guess you would say persistence and finding a way if I can't go on a top if I can't go climb the top over you know, an over a mountain I'm gonna go around or freaking.


38:24.78

kitedart

Yeah.


38:36.83

Priestess Shananda 

Drill a hole through the gosh dard thing but you know there's a way you know there's a way.


38:37.92

kitedart

yeah yeah yeah I love that well like I mean I think that that's that's so important right um. There there isn't one way there's there's never None way and and your way may not be my way and my way today may not be my way 2 years from now or two months from now right? and I think that there is sort of this like desire to arrive or.


38:51.30

Priestess Shananda 

Um, right? Yes, exactly? yes.


39:09.80

kitedart

To know it or to you know that that we're we're just going from a to B and there's a straight way to get there and it's like ah no, that's so not. That's so not how it works. So um, yeah.


39:15.92

Priestess Shananda 

Yeah, yeah, and yeah, and um and it's like yeah there are so many other ways and I'm still you know, catching myself when I begin to you know travel down that rabbit hole of like.


39:33.64

kitedart

F.


39:35.63

Priestess Shananda 

Try fit in and do it their ways versus my way and like hold up wait a minute you know it's just like ah here we go you know and just trying to so yeah, like like ah with everything is. It's just a constant daily check in to just.


39:43.25

kitedart

Um, yeah.


39:55.42

Priestess Shananda 

Pivotvot reevaluate and and continue to move forward going it our way and testing. You know it's ah takes courage to even risk trying it a different way I I believe because. When you're talking about holding on to specific things. That's sometimes once we get comfortable and and and seeing well this is the only way. No, let's let go of that to see what else opens up, we want to hold On. We want to. You know, keep that attachment when that attachment could be the very thing that's blocking you. You know.


40:38.49

kitedart

So true. Yes.


40:41.20

Priestess Shananda 

Ah, and then when we they when we finally give up him like okay we like man was it this easy. Yes, we see that it is but you know just I don't know we have to arrive we arrive. Ah, ah.


40:47.88

kitedart

Yeah.


40:54.70

kitedart

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's that process it gets easier. It gets you know? Um, yeah, it's It's such an interesting journey. So yeah I Totally I totally hear we or say.


40:59.74

Priestess Shananda 

And they will get the hang of it. You know? Yes, yes who.


41:13.92

kitedart

Um, so thanks for sharing all of that I feel like there was 1 other thing I wanted to like bring out of what you were saying. Um and I'm I'm being with a conversation so I lost it. Maybe it will come back. It's totally fine. Um.


41:28.19

Priestess Shananda 

Okay.


41:33.84

kitedart

How about thinking about too right? and again knowing that so much of what you've shared. It is a journey it you know things show back up it continues. You know some of that work continues. Um, but I'd love to hear.


41:36.35

Priestess Shananda 

Um, and a. Um, yeah.


41:51.44

kitedart

Something that you're grappling with now we can have a short coaching conversation to see if we can get you some new little nugget of knowing for what's next.


41:55.63

Priestess Shananda 

Um, okay yeah.


42:03.27

Priestess Shananda 

For sure you know I think I was talking to you about something about just really customizing in a way where I'm being authentic and just getting that organic traction. I think well. Okay, so when I none started with Kitent Dart you know and learning of the traditional funnels and all of that. It's just like all right? Where do I meet with this in regards to me being a spiritualist a healer a very um energy based versus this. And having to merge them all I'm getting the hang of it. But I'm still um, just grappling a little bit of just I guess it's shifting constant shifting and navigating but you know I guess that I feel that there's a way to just be more or. Organic and authentic in that and gaining the engagement and yeah, um, yeah, attracting more clients who are wanting what I have.


43:05.88

kitedart

Yeah.


43:11.76

kitedart

Right? right? right? Got it? Um, and I'm like and in some ways that's like forever the question I feel like you know it's like yeah business development lead generation. Yeah I mean it is but but I think.


43:21.79

Priestess Shananda 

Ah, but I guess that too is trial and error. Yeah.


43:29.59

kitedart

That I mean I I think that even in your question um is the answer to an extent right? and that it not only in the question but also in the way like even reflecting back when you think about.


43:31.98

Priestess Shananda 

Um, a and and.


43:46.62

kitedart

The work that you do right? and so I think it's like part of it is following your intuition and what feels right to do part of it is that trial and error of like trying something what works What doesn't what do I learn from this. How do I go you know where do I go next.


43:46.76

Priestess Shananda 

Right.


43:52.88

Priestess Shananda 

Yes.


44:04.19

Priestess Shananda 

Yes.


44:06.18

kitedart

Um, but I but I also think too that when you're saying like what's the organic way that it is about that It is about that organic way for you and that there isn't a set answer. How do you naturally connect with people.


44:16.35

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah, right.


44:25.43

kitedart

How do you naturally build relationships with people. How do you? How do you make sure that you're showing up in ways where you feel confident and passionate and like open to sharing your gifts with.


44:27.30

Priestess Shananda 

Um, definitely.


44:45.26

kitedart

With the world and and then leaning in more to taking those actions where all those things are true.


44:51.20

Priestess Shananda 

Yes, and yes and I was thinking of something too as you were talking about that like it is possible that even though while I'm grappling with Um. Just integrating and finding ways that are organic for me. It may be that the person that I'm working with um is too in a way and what I'm saying is they're probably not used to someone like me who's having that organic interaction. Engagement and probably kind of like you know, used to going about it their own way or or expecting me to do something but I'm not doing that thing. So It's out of character with them and so it's just like ah we're both doing that dance right? You know that's what I just saw coming in.


45:43.50

kitedart

Ah.


45:48.28

Priestess Shananda 

So um, that just opened up a new perspective and thinking about is probably not just for me or my end is probably them expecting something totally different from me and and me showing up in my authentic boldness is like whoa. Okay, you know? yeah.


46:05.20

kitedart

Um, yeah, well and just sorry, go ahead.


46:07.89

Priestess Shananda 

Which then oh no I was just saying which then you know like kind of like I'm seeing to just make them more comfortable. You know and in testing out that space you know? So yeah.


46:21.40

kitedart

Um, yeah I'm like it just it feels like this sort of dance right? and I do think that you being as authentic as you can be is so much of the secret sauce of that right? because.


46:26.94

Priestess Shananda 

Um, you heard? okay.


46:36.68

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah here.


46:39.20

kitedart

Because even when I did my session with you I even though I write like even like oh okay I know that and and you know d's trained in Reiki and toot and um, you know. Does a lot of work around ritual and right so I knew I knew a lot of the pieces so to speak like in a labeling kind of way but I also how do I say this like I also felt like.


47:00.86

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yes, right.


47:17.26

kitedart

I Knew you quite authentically so I didn't really have any set expectations because I was like this isn't gonna be like where I've experienced Reiki somewhere else or this isn't gonna be like where I've had a toau reading somewhere else like.


47:22.36

Priestess Shananda 

Um, right.


47:28.55

Priestess Shananda 

Um, right in.


47:35.94

kitedart

I knew So so the point being that right? like if you're showing up in such a way where you're trying to fit yourself into somebody else's box or some predetermined box that that's.


47:46.75

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah.


47:54.44

kitedart

Gonna make it much easier for your clients to be making those assumptions or you know whatever. But if you're showing up. So authentically as who you are um, one to your point I think it does give them that permission to do so as well.


47:58.72

Priestess Shananda 

Yes, yes.


48:09.93

Priestess Shananda 

Um, excuse me? yes.


48:14.50

kitedart

And honoring that from both of you. Um, but but even that they'll kind of expect it I guess right? like because I would say that I did I had no idea what to expect but I totally expected that it was gonna be a very authentic experience and it was and it was super cool. So I don't know if that makes sense. But.


48:21.25

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah, and.


48:28.94

Priestess Shananda 

Yeah, it does. Yeah, it does for me I'm and I'm I'm hoping that for the listeners. It'll it'll it'll sink in.


48:33.97

kitedart

Um, yeah, okay good I hope so I know I'm like oh I'm talking to circles but it's it's like it's like that authenticity and honoring who you are.


48:42.36

Priestess Shananda 

I.


48:54.13

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah, yeah.


48:54.15

kitedart

Brings the organic connections that will be the Ray people. You know it's just the continuing to put it out there and I also know that you also um, ah.


49:02.56

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah.


49:09.66

Priestess Shananda 

Is.


49:09.80

kitedart

You know and I'll just call this out that you also step outside of your comfort zone plenty something sorry something really weird has happened with my hair. Okay, um I know that you step out of your comfort zone and do things that um, that.


49:18.40

Priestess Shananda 

That's okay, yeah.


49:28.70

kitedart

You know maybe aren't always I'm not. It's not like it's inauthentic, but it's like you're willing to step out of your comfort zone and take risks and be in action to put it out there. So that people can find you and I think that that's really.


49:37.42

Priestess Shananda 

Yeah.


49:43.40

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yes. You know and you know that's something that I've just recently made more and of an effort to give myself more credit and to celebrate those little wins because I know myself and.


49:48.10

kitedart

Admirable as well.


50:04.97

Priestess Shananda 

I know that I like to take it slow. Um, when it comes to certain things when I make up my mind to do something I still you know need to kind of like see it and then begin to embody it meaning that I'm visualizing myself. Doing what I said that I wanted to do or what I said felt good. So I'm actually like really practicing it in my head and then I'll just be like all right. It's almost like ah like I'm at the the starting line all right. You ready set go type thing you know and then just and I've also recognized that even though even though let's just say even though Mike go self really dislikes making mistakes. Dislikes showing up unprepared or whatever my higher self just knows that I'm doing the best that I can and that and me making these mistakes or just kind of like um. Trying something new even though I don't really have the hang of it yet I'm giving others permission as well because let me tell you like I'm I'm a onewo show I'm editing my own stuff I'm putting this stuff up on my website my own self when like you know I'm I'm grateful for that. But you know that. When the time comes for me to have someone to do that to outsource that too that it'll come but in the meantime I I have to do it and I can't be so afraid which I was in the beginning of putting stuff up there. You know. Of course I'm a leo and it's not going to be all ragley just thrown up there. But you know I'm Goingnna Miss some things you know I'm gonna like you know, but I put it up and then I learn as I go like oh okay and then it's just growing so right now I feel like my seed. My creative process my my it's my baby and it's like it's still like a toddler you know and I'm and I'm still growing so I just have to have patience I'm I'm not going to rush a two year old


52:19.81

kitedart

There's there.


52:27.33

Priestess Shananda 

To like potty before it's time. Ah so with that being said, um I'm just learning to really lean into the process more and enjoy the journey more.


52:29.37

kitedart

Yeah, yeah.


52:43.25

Priestess Shananda 

And knowing that it's always a work in progress and it's never going to be finished. It is never going to be just the way I like it you know because I'm a I'm a recovering perfectionist So is it ever going to be the way I like you know.


52:49.60

kitedart

Right? right? yeah.


52:56.49

kitedart

Right? right? right? Well and and that and that isn't the the point in life ether right? like it like it's like you you may get to a point where you're like okay this is like what I was envisioning and it's working so great and all of this.


53:01.99

Priestess Shananda 

Right? right.


53:11.22

Priestess Shananda 

And the heading.


53:15.91

kitedart

That it that it has happened and then once you get there, you're gonna be like Well what's next right? And that's you know, ah that's just how it works right? like? um so again I think it's.


53:19.96

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah, yes I asked.


53:31.26

kitedart

Part of why we're never going to arrive because as soon as we arrive wherever we think we want to arrive we're picking out a new destination right? And that's fine like that's how it goes So yeah.


53:34.61

Priestess Shananda 

Yes, a new destination exactly yes for sure and you know also want to say it's just like don't be afraid to dream big like I dream big all the time but I also know that.


53:50.69

kitedart

Yeah, yeah.


53:53.69

Priestess Shananda 

After dreamie big I have to break it down or I have to scale it in a different way because like I can have a oh my gosh. Let's do this at this beautiful castle in Switzerland right now I want to do it right now. But.


53:56.71

kitedart

Yeah.


54:12.32

Priestess Shananda 

That really possible and realistic and then I have to bring myself back into ballot. So you know what I'm saying. Ah.


54:12.91

kitedart

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I'm going to start with doing this thing and then I'll do this thing? Yeah, um so one other thing do you mind.


54:21.92

Priestess Shananda 

Um, ah, exactly exactly.


54:31.66

kitedart

Bringing in a little bit of what I know about your funnel and and how things are working is that okay with you Okay because I just um.


54:38.93

Priestess Shananda 

That's okay, yes.


54:44.90

kitedart

I Don't think this is a new understanding for me ah about you and how things are working but it's I Just want to call it out because I know right now some of the um, some of what's working for you is having these partnerships and collaborations.


54:53.39

Priestess Shananda 

Um, and.


55:02.75

Priestess Shananda 

Yes, yes.


55:04.43

kitedart

And I just want to call in too right? that again I know that you're like okay I want I want this business to work in a way that is is unique to me and who I am and you know and your being right? and it has to has to have that authenticity and and it should.


55:16.72

Priestess Shananda 

Um, name a and.


55:23.41

kitedart

And that you are a person who is who cares about relationships and cares about connection to people and you're also a deep person I would say right? like I think you're you go deep and so.


55:34.87

Priestess Shananda 

Oh yes, your intuition is right on the money.


55:41.20

kitedart

Yeah, like you're seeing these deep relationships that you've created that are turning into collaborations and partnerships right? and some people are able to just go out and be like schmoozy politician hey you know like like whatever Nadada like.


55:44.41

Priestess Shananda 

Yes.


55:54.79

Priestess Shananda 

Yeah.


56:00.92

kitedart

Come along for the ride. Do this thing with me whatever and and and just like kind of like have that quick or superficial or whatever kind of connection that that leads them somewhere but keep in mind that as.


56:12.44

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah, yeah.


56:20.70

kitedart

A bipac person as a woman as an indigenous person like that that you um. The way our society has treated you I think you've got a healthy level of skepticism maybe and it's not like a maybe that's not the right word but you know but that like that you you need to be careful.


56:40.54

Priestess Shananda 

Yes.


56:47.62

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah for sure.


56:49.49

kitedart

Because there's a lot of mistreatment that happens and so to just instantly trust others and be able to enter into those things isn't That's not going to work for you.


56:56.39

Priestess Shananda 

Yeah. It really isn't and you're absolutely correct like you know what? as a woman and as a woman of color has learned is that if we are listening to. All of the shiny things that are falling out of someone's mouth and and they're super super like honey sweete all right? What's going On. You know, like it almost feels like a trap you know so you are true and and that actually came up in a and a meeting last week. It's just like.


57:25.66

kitedart

Um, yeah, no.


57:34.89

Priestess Shananda 

To really trust ah and to really allow yourself to be vulnerable was kind of sort of like inviting death in a way you know? yeah and so that really hit me when I heard that because I was like.


57:47.67

kitedart

Um, yeah.


57:54.19

Priestess Shananda 

Holy Crap. That's what that is but I've always been like really I took my time with relationships to see and and really takes me a long time to really let someone in and so you're right? It doesn't really work the way Society is set up now. Especially you know in the work. You know you got to be quick. You got to be blah blah blah but like I really value the connections that I create and it just makes me feel safe and I know that.


58:25.40

kitedart

It's there.


58:26.10

Priestess Shananda 

Others are wanting to feel safe as well. So it's like we have to get back to that point of like really um, addressing wounds trauma to where we can create that safe environment inside of ourselves and so that we automatically can intuit.


58:40.13

kitedart

Are.


58:45.44

Priestess Shananda 

Um, what's an alignment right? What feels good for me to make those connections I Guess that's what I want to say at least for me, you know, but I'm learning to more so right now open up.


58:56.45

kitedart

Yeah.


59:05.90

Priestess Shananda 

Without the very None thought like all right? What do they want only when my gut says something's not right about this or if I feel something but not with every connection every person that I meet I don't like instinctively have oh shoot. What do they want? what's going on type of thing.


59:13.68

kitedart

Um.


59:23.94

kitedart

Um, yeah.


59:24.90

Priestess Shananda 

You know vibe where I was carrying that heavy burden that wasn't even my you know this was passed down to me you know and then I just didn't know at the time.


59:29.51

kitedart

Um, yeah, sure. Yeah.


59:38.83

Priestess Shananda 

And just kind of like thought all right. That's just the way that I operate but no I operate that way because of the trauma that from some situation has happened in my life but more so from that of my ancestors as well right? you know? So yeah.


59:50.32

kitedart

Um, yeah, yeah, so I think you know back to your initial grappling is creating your funnels.


01:00:01.49

Priestess Shananda 

Is it.


01:00:09.42

kitedart

In such a way where you're able to you know where you're going places where you're entering into things where you can create deep connection that allows you to feel safe and be willing to be vulnerable and authentic. And that that's you know those are those things that are going to build your business. Oh no.


01:00:43.48

kitedart

Cow.


01:00:57.10

kitedart

So ah, we're on a little bit of a pause. There is a crazy crazy thunderstorm happening and D just got kicked offline. Um.


01:01:12.81

kitedart

Here She's coming back.


01:01:25.69

kitedart

So weird. Are.


01:01:41.87

kitedart

Ha.


01:01:58.66

kitedart

D Can you hear me.


01:02:08.37

kitedart

Um, oh interesting. Okay.


01:02:30.37

kitedart

Um, ah her.


01:03:12.49

kitedart

Are.


01:03:29.73

kitedart

Um, oh I hear you I wonder are you are you getting this crazy thunderstorm.


01:03:31.00

Priestess Shananda 

Um, okay yay, you don't it so it ah sounded like it. It's coming over like I thought I heard it off in the distance but it is very cloudy.


01:03:45.41

kitedart

Um, okay, got it. Yeah, it's it's storming so hard here when when it actually it's getting a little lighter but when it None when you first went off, it was like I think it was hailing and it was just like.


01:03:49.26

Priestess Shananda 

And the same thing happened yesterday where we lost internet. Um, so yeah.


01:04:03.29

Priestess Shananda 

Oh wow.


01:04:05.60

kitedart

Raining like at a total like ° land yeah it's like crazy. Um, okay, do you want to turn your camera. We're about. We're almost done too. So um I think we're kind of close to wrapping up. But um.


01:04:09.23

Priestess Shananda 

Oh my gosh. Yes, she.


01:04:21.45

kitedart

Do you does it work to turn your camera back on and no it says it's off.


01:04:25.10

Priestess Shananda 

Um, oh I do have it on. You can't see me and that's interesting. So now it's off I'm going to click it again. How that's weird. Ok.


01:04:31.26

kitedart

Okay, there it's getting it there. We go I've had that happen before to I don't know if it's a zen caster thing but I always like log in like 30 minutes ahead of time because I've had times where my camera wouldn't work and I was like what is happening so okay, that was.


01:04:43.85

Priestess Shananda 

Um, ah Wow. Wow yeah.


01:04:50.12

kitedart

God I'm just wondering it could have been the storm but we're both back. Um I'm I guess what I'm trying to think about like it is I know we were talking about kind of your funnels and um.


01:04:53.78

Priestess Shananda 

Could have been yeah for sure. Yes, yes.


01:05:09.84

kitedart

You know you you doing things taking actions and and being in places and spaces where you can build those deep connections with people and have those partnerships and collaborations and that.


01:05:25.30

Priestess Shananda 

Him.


01:05:26.71

kitedart

You know we don't have to go it a loan I know earlier you said that? um you know that like you're a 1 ne-woman show and you're wearing all the hats and doing all the things and it's like that's true and at the same time you're building relationships.


01:05:39.78

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah, it's.


01:05:43.50

kitedart

You're building you know, ah making connections building relationships. Um that run deep and that you know that's one of the ways that you're filling Your funnel is through those partnerships and that that's okay, we don't have to go it alone in business.


01:05:48.12

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yes, and.


01:05:57.51

Priestess Shananda 

E yes and I'm really truly like feeling that now you know it's been like I want to say probably the last two months where I said you know I'm I walk my path but I'm not alone.


01:06:03.80

kitedart

Um, gaff.


01:06:13.00

kitedart

Yeah.


01:06:16.96

Priestess Shananda 

You know, meaning for me myself I I know and I can feel that I have support now and I can ask without fearing. You know what? I'm saying it was like there used to be a time in the past where I wouldn't even ask for help because I was like dejected or rejected or you know given some.


01:06:22.24

kitedart

Yeah, oh.


01:06:36.10

Priestess Shananda 

Crazy excuse and I'm just like I just got so tired of it. You know so I just stop asking and took on that and that was me just trying to find a way to get it done taking on more than I could and then feeling that I had to do it alone because this was.


01:06:49.56

kitedart

I.


01:06:55.52

Priestess Shananda 

The only way blah Blah blah. But no, it's like I'm really opening up more to just now that I've found the community and like really leaned in and allow gave myself permission to be supported.


01:07:09.80

kitedart

Um, yeah.


01:07:14.17

Priestess Shananda 

Is when I can really finally feel what that actually is what it feels like and what it looks like and I'm just so grateful for that you know.


01:07:21.20

kitedart

Yeah, yeah, I always say that for myself like you know, sometimes when I don't feel like I have the answer I don't know then it's like I don't know but I'll know it when I see it like I'll feel it all. You know.


01:07:27.79

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yes yes I like Wayne dyar yeahcyclwayine dyer said um I'll i'll.


01:07:38.28

kitedart

I'll know it when I feel it I guess.


01:07:46.78

Priestess Shananda 

Um, I'll believe it when I see it instead of like I'll I'll see it ah something like that I'll it was. It was a twist on the words and I think I always get that mixed up but like not really like oh I'll believe it when I see it but like I know I already have belief.


01:08:03.21

kitedart

Yeah.


01:08:06.57

Priestess Shananda 

Anyway, you know I don't I don't need to see it. That's what he was truly meaning. You know you don't really for you to just have faith and have belief is enough knowing I mean with believing with faith I feel that there has to be a part of.


01:08:08.24

kitedart

Um, yeah. Um, yeah.


01:08:26.13

Priestess Shananda 

Ah, person's mind that's imagining it too. So you're already seeing it seeing it the way that you are interpreting it and that you're wanting it to be so you're already seeing it right there and it doesn't have to look like anyone else's but as long as they are able to just kind of like.


01:08:27.19

kitedart

Um, yeah.


01:08:37.12

kitedart

Um, yeah.


01:08:43.20

kitedart

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and and yeah, and and so it's like it's it's still to me then comes down to that authenticity because that alignment comes from the authenticity and when.


01:08:45.63

Priestess Shananda 

Connect That's important thing you know.


01:08:57.27

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah, yes.


01:09:01.44

kitedart

Things are aligned. That's when things work and I'm also going to call out here though too that when things are aligned. That's when things you know when when what you're doing is aligned to who you are and what you really want and what you're great at and you know all of those things the difference you want to make.


01:09:07.68

Priestess Shananda 

A.


01:09:20.38

kitedart

People you're aligning with I think that that's when things really work and I want to call out that there also is racism and sexism and all of these things and right like I 1 time was coaching this guy in his business and he was just.


01:09:32.41

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah, yes.


01:09:39.52

kitedart

Setting up a consultancy and I think he went out and sold like a $20000 package in the first like 2 weeks and I was just like are you freaking kidding me like good for him and like where's my $20000 package in the first two years


01:09:42.43

Priestess Shananda 

And I. Um, and and yeah, yeah.


01:09:59.31

kitedart

You know and and it's like ok white dude right? like there was a ton of privilege there and Nate and I talk about this all the time right of of you know how does you know.


01:10:06.30

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah.


01:10:16.38

kitedart

How do we see racism and sexism showing up even inside of Kite + Dart and the business we get and so trying to compare or trying to think about like oh this should be happening in this timeframe and it's like well what is that based on.


01:10:19.94

Priestess Shananda 

Are you a he.


01:10:33.45

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah, yeah.


01:10:35.48

kitedart

Like and does that take into consideration. Um an unlevel playing field.


01:10:43.58

Priestess Shananda 

Yeah I mean it's like that privilege that you we're talking about it's I don't know I think now that it's become a hot topic. Like do people some people even understand what is meant when you know by Poke by Bypac and other you know, majoralize Individuals minorities. What they really mean like the privilege.


01:11:16.72

kitedart

Yeah.


01:11:20.69

Priestess Shananda 

It's like have you ever had to you know or have you ever been up against ah because of you know so I just feel that the more that's kind of like.


01:11:22.60

kitedart

Um, ah yeah, yeah.


01:11:40.41

Priestess Shananda 

Now for me and sometimes I feel like I just have to like come back to myself and give myself permission and also forgiveness and then compassion because like.


01:11:45.78

kitedart

Ah, here.


01:11:58.65

Priestess Shananda 

No I don't know everyone's story but I do know my own and I do know that you know there have been times that I have come up against certain things and I felt it even though I didn't call it out and you know sometimes wondering well should I have called it out but like going through that whole freaking. Um, cycle of just like shame and blame and and unworthiness you know and so I'm just really just grateful really just for platforms like yours Karen to just really be the one who are challenging you know and calling for. More um, just more awareness when it comes to the whole privilege thing. Um and and those who are privileged and then still not really understanding what they could do for the little guy. The little woman.


01:12:41.32

kitedart

Ah, her.


01:12:52.24

kitedart

Um, yeah, yeah, and it's I mean to your point. Everybody only knows their own story but you know what are you doing to.


01:12:57.69

Priestess Shananda 

You know? So yeah.


01:13:08.54

kitedart

Have empathy and trying to understand other people's experiences and I'm not I mean I've got plenty of my own privilege right? like you know I'm not you know I have I have identities that have um, held me Down. Ah. And and I've got plenty of others that have given me privilege and so it's you know it's not an either or game and but to your point there's so many things that people don't Understand. Um.


01:13:35.68

Priestess Shananda 

Thank you I.


01:13:44.20

kitedart

If they haven't experienced it and so ah, you know what? what are people doing to learn like what are people doing to educate themselves and open their eyes and where are they taking a stand and we know are they using their privilege to you know, lift up others or.


01:13:54.34

Priestess Shananda 

Night.


01:14:02.44

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yes, yeah.


01:14:02.76

kitedart

Hold him down you know So um, and and I'm not trying to say like you know that it that it's like oh well I've been oppressed so. I You know I have oppressed Id identity So I can't I don't think that's true at all. But I do think that it's important to just call out that um you know we've I think we've been handed this idea that entrepreneurships should be easy and anybody can do it and.


01:14:24.32

Priestess Shananda 

Um, right? yeah.


01:14:38.74

kitedart

Just work hard and pull yourself up by your bootstraps and did it and it's just like you know what? Nope that you know there's a whole lot of other experiences out there and so.


01:14:38.81

Priestess Shananda 

Um, right.


01:14:44.70

Priestess Shananda 

Yeah, oh a lot of other yeah and I mean it's a thin line right? It's like it's just just and the only way that.


01:14:56.52

kitedart

Yeah.


01:15:03.62

Priestess Shananda 

We can get through this as to have more conversations and have compassion. Um and like just I don't know just really take time to listen deeper.


01:15:16.78

kitedart

Um, yeah.


01:15:21.83

Priestess Shananda 

And that's all I can say at least for myself it it it helps because I can hold on to certain emotions that I've had in the past about like um, why not me or why didn't I or I don't have this opportunity I can. I Can let that drag me down into those lower vibrations or I can raise up into the higher vibration of love and the higher vibration of um worthiness for myself. Gratitude for myself.


01:15:50.54

kitedart

Ah.


01:15:57.66

Priestess Shananda 

As Well as just having compassion knowing that I'm doing the best that I can do and I'm not going to go away and I'm not going to also like challenge you I don't want to create conflict where conflict has no place. This is a time for just kind of like meeting eye to eye and just really just like it's not that difficult to just have at least respect you don't have to agree but to have respect for another individual. That's all I'm asking you know.


01:16:28.68

kitedart

Ah, yeah.


01:16:34.13

Priestess Shananda 

I could find another Avenue for my way, you know the way that needs to work for me. But you know I'm I'm I'm seeing a situation and and looking at like you know and knowing that I don't have to stay here I don't have to. Interact engage and I can just move along my path I'm not going to let that stop me if that's that's what I'm I'm getting at you know and I'm going to show others how it's done. Ah.


01:17:01.43

kitedart

Yeah, yes, yes, yes, you are yes you are I love it? Yeah, um, all right? So I have 2 whilst questions. These are just kind of quick ones.


01:17:11.90

Priestess Shananda 

Yeah, so yeah.


01:17:19.90

Priestess Shananda 

Is it.


01:17:19.95

kitedart

Ah, first one is will you share what what entrepreneurial activism means to you.


01:17:28.64

Priestess Shananda 

Oh entrepreneurial activvision Activism is just for me is just you know it could be this big thing or it can be this small thing but at least bringing awareness to the fact.


01:17:33.37

kitedart

Yep.


01:17:48.31

Priestess Shananda 

That we have to put action into creating a better way that entrepreneurship is looked at you know and so a little action for me would be just to support those who.


01:17:55.70

kitedart

Um, is it.


01:18:07.93

Priestess Shananda 

Embrace Entrepreneurial activism as Well. You know partnering with with you and and others like that and just creating that community there and you know just embodying those tools. That helps navigate all of the little like you know, just the little parts the little pieces and really just with compassion calling out certain things that may kind of like feel like.


01:18:43.13

kitedart

Ah, her.


01:18:45.51

Priestess Shananda 

Out of balance you know? Ah yeah.


01:18:53.19

Priestess Shananda 

I Know that there are systems and I know that they're set up in a certain way for a specific reason and I'm all I'm saying is that if a person out there is wanting to have a business that's their own and one that. Will not only um, benefit them and and create more abundance for them. But for the community I know that this is not an easy easy task in the beginning I'm like oh you know, but like getting into it more like I want to take a stand and I want to contribute. So an action for me is to really shop with you know, smaller businesses. You know entrepreneurs. Especially you know those of um bipoc community and just because they're giving back to the community. They're not like.


01:19:34.69

kitedart

Um, ah.


01:19:48.44

Priestess Shananda 

You know, taking taking taking taking and then they're spreading the wealth that way. So that's one little act that I can do now um using my platform if I have to just kind of like be vocal about something that's a big you know act that I can do but doing it.


01:20:06.70

kitedart

Ah.


01:20:07.72

Priestess Shananda 

And alignment with what feels good for me, you know I might not be the 1 standing at the front of the picket line but I'm back there and I'm brutin I'm supporting and I'm really having a vision and sending out prayers for a change in and this.


01:20:26.35

kitedart

Yeah, yeah, yeah I love that I love that I Love all like the the kind of the big idea of it and that even just the small actions and I think that's true that it it can be this.


01:20:27.12

Priestess Shananda 

This switch that needs to occur that needs to occur.


01:20:41.83

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yeah.


01:20:44.46

kitedart

Um I believe entrepreneurial Activism can be this sort of big thing we're doing and and there's a lot of little actions that we can do on a daily basis. So um I I Really appreciate that and.


01:20:53.25

Priestess Shananda 

Um, who are yes.


01:21:01.93

kitedart

And I think even like.


01:21:04.12

Priestess Shananda 

You're welcome.


01:21:07.76

kitedart

I lost it I was listening so again I did that I was listening I thought of something and then I kept listening and then I forgot it So that's okay, we'll skip that. But um, okay so yeah, yeah, whatever. Um, okay so the last thing.


01:21:11.36

Priestess Shananda 

Um, that's okay.


01:21:17.99

Priestess Shananda 

Um, now I do the same thing I'm glad I'm not alone. But.


01:21:26.39

kitedart

Is I will put this in the show notes. So folks can click click on it but would you please share for people who are just listening how they can get in touch with you or learn more about what you're up to.


01:21:31.44

Priestess Shananda 

Um, okay.


01:21:40.60

Priestess Shananda 

Sure so my website is http://templecrimsonlotus.com and I'm for the most part. Um, well, my new platform is Tiktok so I can't remember I think it's like. None ananda d or something like that when I none started but the sures way to get in touch with me is through Instagram preci shaanda or the divinity of Ananda so Preciand is my business page and so yeah.


01:22:07.37

kitedart

Okay, great. Well D Thank you so much for being here for sharing so much about your story and your journey. It's been a pleasure talking to you.


01:22:19.43

Priestess Shananda 

Thank you! It's been a pleasure talking with you too. Karen thank you so much and thank you for the work that you're doing as well I truly appreciate that.


01:22:26.59

kitedart

Yes, it's It's my pleasure we're in it together my dear but.


01:22:32.36

Priestess Shananda 

Um, yes, yes, yes, we are.